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Post by Kacer on Jan 1, 2005 21:26:00 GMT -5
Gay issue 'threatens to break us apart'Gay issue 'threatens to break us apart' January 1, 2005 VALLEY FORGE, Pa. -- The 25 regional executives of the 1.5 million-member American Baptist Churches in the USA jointly announced that the denomination's ongoing controversy over homosexuality "threatens to break us apart." A pastoral statement to "preserve unity," released this month after a meeting of denomination leaders, said they had personally agreed to "voluntarily refrain from" naming sexually active gays and lesbians to national and regional positions. The church leaders also said they would not participate in same-sex marriage ceremonies, but pledged to shun "homophobic behavior." Link: www.indystar.com/articles/0/206113-4570-047.html
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Post by Big Gay Al on Jan 2, 2005 11:00:43 GMT -5
I used to be a member of a Bible Baptist Church. In general, I liked most of their tenets, but the anti-gay preaching started picking up to a point that I just couldn't take it anymore. The thing that gets me is they almost always go back to the Old Testament and what it says in Leviticus, and totally ignore the following. Now, some MIGHT try to argue that the above does not replace the old, yet, from the electronic Bible I got the above passage from, comes the following NT Commentary: Obviously, the rules in Leviticus no longer apply. At least in my humble opinion.
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Post by Stetson on Jan 2, 2005 13:20:27 GMT -5
Its called selective reading. Supposedly, Jesus and his life(the New Testament) was supposed to supercede the OT. Unfortunately, no one agrees with this when arguing homosexuality. The same religions do not banish their women during their menstral cycle but somewhere in there, it talks about that. And sacrificing animals....etc....
c):{
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Post by Kacer on Jan 2, 2005 19:36:40 GMT -5
Its called selective reading. Supposedly, Jesus and his life(the New Testament) was supposed to supercede the OT. Unfortunately, no one agrees with this when arguing homosexuality. The same religions do not banish their women during their menstral cycle but somewhere in there, it talks about that. And sacrificing animals....etc.... c):{ Oh, there is a WHOLE BUNCH of things in Leviticus that are "abomination" they fail to use rudimentary intelligence, however to discern WHY these activities/practices etc... were CONSIDERED an "abomination. See, pork was a "no no" because the Priests of Baal tended to sacrifice pigs TO Baal, and as sacrifices were not ALWAYS (or even frequently) completely "consumed" by the fire, they often found thmeselves at market, on sale. It was NOT Okay for a Jew to eat of a Baal sacrifice. Same, really w/ homosexuality. The pagan "temples" had temple prostitutes (both male AND female) so when Paul saw/heard what went on "in there" that's when he did the New testament stuff, and whomever wrote Leviticus - well same/similar deal. It was an "abomination" because it had to do w/ (AT THAT TIME) worshiping another "god". BIG no no. But try to explain this to a flamin' thumper and..... they just cannot grasp the concept. And REALLY, who can blame them? We (the GLBT Community) is one of the FEW groups that may still be used PRETTY easially as "scapegoats" they really CAN'T go after "the coloreds" anymore as that's not socially acceptable, it's still KINDA okay to pick on us though.... KINDA
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Post by Stetson on Jan 3, 2005 0:11:59 GMT -5
Its okay to pick on my 'group' too. I hear it all the time. 'Yada, yada, red staters, yada, yada'
We should share our victimization...lol
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Post by Big Gay Al on Jan 3, 2005 0:21:23 GMT -5
Same subject, different vein, it appears that godhatesf*gs.com has been shut down!! ....Nope, nevermind. It was just hacked for a while. d**n. That's too bad...sort of.
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Post by BelfryExpress on Jan 3, 2005 18:24:24 GMT -5
Most str8 people I know who call denounce homosexuality just havent gotten past the "icky" part or are just totally insecure about their own sexuality. Fortunately I am with mine and most of the people I tend to associate with.
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Post by Kacer on Jan 3, 2005 19:37:27 GMT -5
Most str8 people I know who call denounce homosexuality just havent gotten past the "icky" part or are just totally insecure about their own sexuality. Fortunately I am with mine and most of the people I tend to associate with. Belfry, yeah, I think a certain Mac fits into the SECOND group, I said as much in the Abe topic on ARFCOM.
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Post by Big Gay Al on Jan 3, 2005 20:24:49 GMT -5
Belfry, yeah, I think a certain Mac fits into the SECOND group, I said as much in the Abe topic on ARFCOM. What's the "Abe Topic, and which formum at ARFCOM is it in???
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Post by Kacer on Jan 3, 2005 20:50:48 GMT -5
What's the "Abe Topic, and which formum at ARFCOM is it in??? "Was Abe Lincoln Gay?" is the topic, it's in general, best, IMO to do a "search" on "Abe" as last time I checked 1.5 days) no comments. I seem to do that a LOT. ("get" the last word in" not so much when it's locked... I either make too GOOD of an argument, or tick enough folks off they just "go away"
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Post by Big Gay Al on Jan 3, 2005 22:50:49 GMT -5
The search menu won't let me search in the category of "General." So I can't find it.
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Post by StonerStudent on Jan 3, 2005 22:56:25 GMT -5
Al if you are a team member just seach kacer in all forums. If not I'll look it up when I get home and post the link.
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Post by StonerStudent on Jan 4, 2005 4:24:50 GMT -5
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Post by Big Gay Al on Jan 4, 2005 4:53:30 GMT -5
Thanks!!
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Post by Kacer on Jan 4, 2005 20:36:21 GMT -5
Sorry, I should have just posted a link for you. I was rushing to go see my honey and I even forgot to shut off the computer! :/
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