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Post by StonerStudent on Jun 16, 2005 23:34:39 GMT -5
I picked up a exLEO SW 66 357mag with a 4 in barrel last Friday. It was in pretty good shape but the bore is pitted and I was pretty much looking at having in rebarreled...anyway took it to the range today and d**n if it doesn't shoot fairly decent groups [with my skill level anyway] I must say I am impressed and surprised with it . This makes my second "cop gun" my first is a Berretta 92 that I love.
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Post by cougar on Jun 17, 2005 23:53:46 GMT -5
Years ago a friend of mine purchased an old model 10 from a retired police officer. We took it to the range and with its skinny 5 inch barrel I was prepared to be underwhelmed by it's performance. It really surprised me at how accurate it was and my friend was very pleased that this, his first handgun, was actually a good one.
Cougar
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Post by Buckshot on Jun 17, 2005 23:56:59 GMT -5
SS,
Rather amazing that one managed to get pitted.
In that era many were fired with lead bullets, often the "FBI Load" 158 LSWCHP which tended to lube the bore and keep it from pitting.
I have a S&W M65 (same gun with fixed sights) and it does very well, really smooth.
Don't you just love it when you come across something like this?
Buckshot
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Post by Buckshot on Jun 18, 2005 0:00:30 GMT -5
Cougar,
The first S&W M10 I owned (as opposed to used) was a M10-HB in 4" that I bought used from Central Ohio Police Supply. It was a used, surplus Ohio State Highway Patrol revolver. They had one of those 5 gal. fiber drums full of them. Your choice, $125.00 out the door.
I got one and several of my friends did. They were all sweet shooters.
Don't bother to try to find Central Ohio Police Supply, they closed down several years ago, unfortunately.
Buckshot
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Post by salukifan on Jun 19, 2005 19:29:24 GMT -5
+1 on the S&W M10. Those are some great wheelguns. I was about to head over to Ohio to find the Central Ohio Police Supply until I read your last sentence!
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Post by StonerStudent on Jun 19, 2005 19:39:16 GMT -5
SS, Rather amazing that one managed to get pitted. In that era many were fired with lead bullets, often the "FBI Load" 158 LSWCHP which tended to lube the bore and keep it from pitting. I have a S&W M65 (same gun with fixed sights) and it does very well, really smooth. Don't you just love it when you come across something like this? Buckshot Yes I was really surprised as well, never let the sunset on a dirty weapon.
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Post by Buckshot on Jun 19, 2005 22:44:01 GMT -5
Salukifan, Didn't mean to tease, that is why I put that disclaimer in there. IIRC they closed in '91 or '92, Miss them regularly since then. Central Ohio Police Supply was inside (physically) Sportland which was the retail outlet retained by the Wammes kids when the older generation sold Wammes out and it became Accu-sport. Then, after a while the kids closed down Sportland and Central Ohio Police Supply and only Accu-sprot is left and then won't deal retail at all. As far as I know the only outfit that still regularly has police trade-ins is that outfit out of Kentucky, KY Imports, Inc. has a few used S&Ws (only a couple of revolvers) a few used SIGS, a few used and a few factory rebuilt Glocks a few used Berettas and H&Ks. Prices between not bad and not that great. Web site is www.kyimports.com The other options are occasionally AIM and SOG who both once in a while have a few police trade-ins. Buckshot
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Post by salukifan on Jun 20, 2005 11:09:39 GMT -5
Hey Buckshot, Thanks for the tip on the KY Imports link. They do have a revolver listed as a "pre-Model 10" for $150 right now. If I weren't saving up for a vacation I might get it.
Am I right in thinking that a "pre-Model 10" is basically the old Military and Police gun that Smith and Wesson later named the Model 10? If I wanted to buy one and change out the grips I would just need the same kind of K frame grips the modern M10 takes? Just curious...
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Post by cougar on Jun 20, 2005 22:43:04 GMT -5
Salukifan asked us, with snippage: Am I right in thinking that a "pre-Model 10" is basically the old Military and Police gun that Smith and Wesson later named the Model 10? If I wanted to buy one and change out the grips I would just need the same kind of K frame grips the modern M10 takes? Just curious...[/quote] You might try looking around and asking on the Smith&Wesson forum smith-wessonforum.com/eveCougar
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Post by StonerStudent on Jun 20, 2005 23:12:57 GMT -5
Salukifan asked us, with snippage: Am I right in thinking that a "pre-Model 10" is basically the old Military and Police gun that Smith and Wesson later named the Model 10? If I wanted to buy one and change out the grips I would just need the same kind of K frame grips the modern M10 takes? Just curious... You might try looking around and asking on the Smith&Wesson forum smith-wessonforum.com/eveCougar[/quote] Pretty much.......K frames have two grip shapes though....round butt and square. I think that the newer L frame has the same grip dementions as the K frame as well.
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Post by Buckshot on Jun 20, 2005 23:18:04 GMT -5
Hey Buckshot, Thanks for the tip on the KY Imports link. They do have a revolver listed as a "pre-Model 10" for $150 right now. If I weren't saving up for a vacation I might get it. Am I right in thinking that a "pre-Model 10" is basically the old Military and Police gun that Smith and Wesson later named the Model 10? If I wanted to buy one and change out the grips I would just need the same kind of K frame grips the modern M10 takes? Just curious... Salukifan, You pretty much have it right as far as the grips go. The olde revolver will indeed be a "military and police hand ejector", but it may be an older, long action version. The "long action" revolvers were phased out between the end of WW II and the time of the Model Numbering (mid 1950s I think). They had a longer action and a 5 screw sideplate. They are the ones that are so prized for smoothness, the kind that Ed McGivern used. The new ones are "rough and crude" compared to a long action revovler. This means only two important things to a current user. 1. The revolver SHOULD NOT be used with +P or +P+ ammo. 2. You may have to do some serious hunting for replacemetn parts if an old long action revolver goes out of time. They WILL NOT use the new short action parts. The old revolver would take just about ANY current K frame grip. You may have to releive the new grip for one of the old round headed sideplate screws, but that is short work with a drill bit powered by hand, no drill required. Buckshot
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Post by salukifan on Jun 24, 2005 11:22:51 GMT -5
Thanks Cougar, StonerStudent and Buckshot for the detailed info. I am intrigued by the idea of a long action revolver but it is kind of a bummer that you can't shoot hot ammo in them. Everything is a trade-off though I guess...
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Post by StonerStudent on Aug 17, 2005 0:52:56 GMT -5
Update.......Stoner just picked up a backup pistol, a used S&W 686 2 1/2 barrel and is going to do some customizing ;D
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Post by Buckshot on Aug 17, 2005 2:03:42 GMT -5
That sounds like a nice snag.
Bet she is a little heavy, though. I get tired of toting a 2 1/8" 640-1 J-frame .357 Mag after a while. 2 1/2" and L-frame would add a whole bunch more weight.
Not so bad in the winter, but would NOT be nice in the hot weather, especially real hot like this year.
Of course, I seem to filter almost everything handgun through a CCW applicability nowdays.
Buckshot
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Post by StonerStudent on Aug 17, 2005 9:04:26 GMT -5
Your not wrong there Buckshot.....it's a chunk of steel to be sure.
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