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Post by Kacer on Mar 15, 2005 21:45:32 GMT -5
Yes, my first: [glow=red,2,300]Thank you StonerStudent [/glow]
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 15, 2005 23:18:17 GMT -5
Kacer,
Incomplete report!
I see an M4 clone.
You gave no stats.
New babies have weights, lengths, hair color, parts sources (mommy's eyes, daddy's nose)...
;^)
Buckshot
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Post by StonerStudent on Mar 16, 2005 1:43:08 GMT -5
Kacer has only seen a pic of her baby so far. It's a monster of my building from spare parts left over from about 3 different projects I've done over the years. I tried to get as close to M4forgery as I could [without needing a tax stamp] I'm taking it out to the range tomorrow to test fire and sight it in. And if all goes well it will be ready for her by the weekend. of course I going to take it apart again so she learn about her new baby first hand....
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 16, 2005 20:41:07 GMT -5
SS,
So, going with the Baby analogy, what we saw was the sonogram, not the birth pictures?
:^)
Buckshot
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Post by StonerStudent on Mar 16, 2005 23:08:35 GMT -5
Yep....We wait for Kacer to post better pics ;D
after the delivery
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Post by StonerStudent on Mar 17, 2005 23:09:54 GMT -5
Well I test fired Kacer's M4forgery today and had no malfunction of any kind. Also sighted it in for a 25-250yd field zero....and got 1 moa groups out of a 14 1/2 barrel!!!!!!! ;D
which is to bad for my lame shooting abilty.
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 17, 2005 23:53:11 GMT -5
SS,
Do you have the M16 section out of the "Guidebook for Marines" coppied yet to start bootcamp with?
Keep training until she can pull it down in 3.72 seconds and re=assemble in 4.56 seconds while blindfolded in a dark sandbox?
;^)
Buckshot
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Post by StonerStudent on Mar 17, 2005 23:57:06 GMT -5
Yep..
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Post by Kacer on Mar 18, 2005 10:45:04 GMT -5
I'd be happy w/a minute. Unless there is actually a practical REASON for faster beyond that time. Is there? (Okay, maybe intimidation factor... I could go w/that. )
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 19, 2005 0:19:23 GMT -5
Kacer,
Well, the faster you are the farther away the MEAN guy with the Smokey the Bear hat stays. Isn't that a good and worthwhile plan by itself?
;^)
Seriously, what happens when the gaps on the three gas rings work around and line up and you get gas venting and sluggish bolt operation and you have to open things and get the gaps in the gas rings staggered again for proper functioning? That is about as deep as you can go into the action.c
Buckshot
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 19, 2005 0:29:07 GMT -5
SS,
Just how big a deal is this gas ring thing?
I have not had it happen to me. The "Guidebook for Marines" doesn't seem to mention anything about the gas rings other than their presence, but the US. Army "Soldier's Manual of Common Tasks Skill Level 1" makes specific mention of this in Figure 74 but there does not seem to be any mention of this in the text.
I wonder about this because of some classes I have taken with police AR users. They are CONSTANTLY pulling the rifle down and checking the gas rings! Seems kind of spooky to me.
Is it something they have to watch for much more because of the used M16A1s they were getting from the government?
Buckshot
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Post by Kacer on Mar 19, 2005 18:21:12 GMT -5
Kacer, Well, the faster you are the farther away the MEAN guy with the Smokey the Bear hat stays. Isn't that a good and worthwhile plan by itself? ;^) Seriously, what happens when the gaps on the three gas rings work around and line up and you get gas venting and sluggish bolt operation and you have to open things and get the gaps in the gas rings staggered again for proper functioning? That is about as deep as you can go into the action.c Buckshot So, there kind of IS a good reason to do a rapid break down and re-assemble then... POTENTIALLY. I'm all about the "expect noting, be ready for anything motto... so rapid (break)down and back up it is
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Post by StonerStudent on Mar 19, 2005 20:24:15 GMT -5
There pretty much two main problems with gas rings....if they are worn you replace them [$2 and about 30 sec] or if the opening in the rings get lined up with each other and you get gas leaks.......That's the only thing I think they could be worried about. And with all the AR's I have I have never had a problem.
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 20, 2005 1:12:20 GMT -5
SS,
That is kind of what I thought, but I wanted to ask.
I have kept them clean, took a look at them when the piece was field stripped and made sure that the three gaps didn't line up but other than that left them pretty much alone.
The USMC ignoring them gave me an opinion on them. The US Army making mention of them in a picture but not in their text kind of reenforced that opinion.
Might have been a "cop thing" around here too. They were getting the surplus M16A1s from the government for the shipping. They had no one (at that time) selected or trained as an armorer and they were fairly worried about the rifles breaking before they got someone to maintain them.
As usual it was probably the result of a guy waking up for one section of the instructions or that section being covered right after he had a fresh cup of coffee, and the gas rings are the only thing he really absorbed out of the class, and it became a horror story!
Buckshot
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Post by Buckshot on Mar 22, 2005 1:57:58 GMT -5
Kacer and SS,
When is the introduction, adoption, whatever?
;^)
Buckshot
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